Underoath – Three Thoughts on Christianity

For more than 15 years Underoath has been sharpening its fierce eloquence when it comes to pounding out the Christian-slanted hard rock that has earned the band a glowing global rep. Blending post-hardcore and heavy metal with a decent dose of screamo, the Tampa outfit featuring Aaron Gillespie and Spencer Chamberlain has moved from blustery broadsides like “I’ve Got Ten Friends and a Crowbar That Says You Ain’t Gonna Do Jack” to refined explosions such as those that dot their first disc in eight years, ‘Erase Me.’ The album hits hard. From “Bloodlust” to “I Gave Up” the band rails through a storm of sound. But that sound is no-longer associated with overt Christian perspectives. Chamberlain has told the press that they “couldn’t grow musically” under that banner, and once they let it go they “became healthy, happy….and were able to create again.” Our ‘Three Thoughts’ interview finds them amplifying that notion, with the guys questioning recent actions in the name of Christianity. “When you believe in the rules and not the reason [behind them], then you got an issue,” says Gillespie. Watch them shoot from the hip about the act of speaking truth to power.

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  1. It’s very unfortunate that you guys have had such a negative experience with Christian community. This is why I get upset with some Christians in America. I’ve been a Christian for about 10 years and have seen how people who claim to be followers of Christ isolate themselves from people who they consider to be „sinners” That is such bullshit. When we look at the life of Christ, he wasn’t hanging out with people who thought they were righteous but with the prostitutes, tax collectors, and people in poverty. I have had the privilege to be around an awesome Christian community for a number of years. I’ve seen the ways that people can be honest about their lives and be accepted with open arms. I pray that God will be placing genuine Christian’s in your life. I think a good verse is Romans 15:7 „Therefore, accept each other just as Christ has accepted you so that God will be given glory.” Thank you for your honesty!

    • @13th Evergreen Again, you didn’t read my statement. You just read that I wasn’t a believer, and so you decided to take time out of your day/evening to proselytize to someone who doesn’t care about your beliefs. If you care, good for you. Your life is your own to live, and my life is my own to live. Proselytize to people who express interest in learning about your ideas. Regardless of the obvious disagreement on my part, I wish you well.

    • @13th Evergreen how is a quote from the Bible stupidity? That’s all I used. Check yourself.

      Also, thanks for the reply…7 months late.

    • Amen Brother! The church is still full of people; imperfect people. We should not be surprised when people of the church to let us down, but that doesn’t mean that their aren’t loving Christians out their that would love to form a community with us. We need them just as much as they need us. And yes, Religion is man made and often times corrupts members of the church but Jesus didn’t come to start a religion; He came to start a Relationship. Not Rules; Relationship built on love and community. Spencer……we got you. We love metal and we love Jesus. Maybe the church let you down. But that doesn’t mean we aren’t here to hold you up. God Bless!!!

    • Yes. Jesus changed all of those people’s lives… They left their life pf sin to follow Him. Not even ONE of them went back to their old life. Its incredibly beautiful and amazing and I am so grateful that He has done the same exact thing in my life. I will never look back. 💗💗💗

  2. This is so weird. I never saw Spencer as the super religious guy but Aaron? Damn I remember watching videos and interviews with him where he was super into it. Seems like he went through a lot of personal stuff and came out the other side totally different.

    • @Roldan Duran If you’re not wrestling with, God. You can never know, God. I’m not a Christian. More of existentialist. However, this statement is true regardless. How will you ever know yourself if you refuse to wrestle with and seek reconciliation with the parts of you that aren’t so savory? I think that the misconception of „divinity” is that to be divine is to be the „light” or devoid of sin. I don’t think this is the case. Jesus certainly didn’t. Hence his sacrifice on the cross. To bask in the shame of humanity. More importantly, openly and in public. Jesus sacrifice on the cross was a demonstration of what it means to be divine. To wrestle with yourself. Or in the bibe, God.

      This is what spencer has a problem with, I think. These people claim divinity. Yet, hide their skeletons in their closets. There’s something wrong with that, and he’s right. They’re sinners all the same. Or better yet, human beings who remain unenlightened to the truth of their existence. That they are not only God, but the devil too.

  3. The people in the comments are mostly proving their point. I’m not Christian at all, but respect to the ones who didn’t just go an judge them.

    • LMAO Laura, another comment that proves their point. You think they owe you something because as a Christian you bought their early records? The lack of self awareness from Christians is incredible but also incredibly unsurprising.

    • If having a ‘victim mentality’ means saving yourself from drug addiction and depression without having to rely on ‘god’ to do do then sign me up for that victim mentality.

    • “..who didn’t just go an judge them.”
      Wtf are you talking about? I’ve been to Underoath shows at the height of their career, and at some point during their sets Spencer would say something along the lines of “We just want you all to know we do this for Jesus and we want you all to know Jesus loves you.”
      And now they proudly distance themselves from any religious dogma or label. No one held a gun to Spencer or Aaron’s heads and made him say those things years ago. I have every right to be upset at them.

  4. I’d like to apologize on behalf of my brothers and sisters who have hurt you and I’m sorry we have failed to love you well in your pain. As you continue your journey, may you experience God’s love and grace, which can be found in the most unexpected places sometimes.

  5. I empathize with Spencer’s frustrations, but I’m tired of people equating modern day American Christianity with Christianity itself.

    • Couldn’t agree more. So much misinformation and confusion on what the Historic Christianity is all about. This modern progressive Christianity is ruining what Christian Orthodox is. Spencer/Aaron should try to talk to some genuine Christian.

    • ​@Craig Says You’re exactly proving my point. You ‘re arguing against a modern version of Christianity that tries to fit with materialism. The ancients–who wrote the Bible–thought much more symbolically, clearly. They were not writing a science text book. And if you think that’s a dodge, read Origen (3rd century) or St. Augustine (4th century) on the subject.
      You should check out a YouTuber named Jonathan Pageau. You might like him.

  6. You know, the problem with Christians is that everyone keeps trying to become better versions of themselves, rather than a more accurate reflection of Him.

    Just think about this before you get triggered and start replying.

    • I agree, the word Christian is only used but 1-3 times in the Bible Jesus refers to his followers as disciples meaning they take advise wholeheartedly from him.

    • Wow, seriously that was profound Benedict! Well said brother – the Word says that we should not compare ourselves to others – only that we are to be followers of Christ &, in doing so, declare & reveal Him to those around us. It’s too bad though that these two gentlemen have seemed to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. They seem to have taken their eyes off the only perfect One & put it on sinful men who are bound to let us down. And, just like Peter walking on the water, when he took his eyes off Jesus, he started to sink beneath the waves – seems like these guys have too but we continue to pray for God to bring them back by His amazin’ grace!

  7. Wow. A lot of „Christians” came here with their comments of negative judgment. Pretty much just confirms everything Underoath are talking about.

  8. I just had the exact same thoughts as them , went through the same thing , I can to the conclusion that even during my deliberate sin Jesus still loves and accepts me , that’s how I met my best friend who has encouraged me to just be ME and that’s ok and through that I’ve come to understand why certain are wrong and why God has set certain rules , but there is freedom even in the boundaries. If you love God more than anything else , nothing , no judgemental or religious people will take you from Him. He doesn’t change His mind about the love He has for us individually.

  9. This breaks my heart…we as the church have failed them. We are called to love, to build up, to strengthen. Not to close doors and hush questions. God wants us to ask questions, to see for ourselves if His word is true. He calls us to love. And somehow the church (collectively) has failed to do that. Instead of being a place of love, we have become a place of condemnation. Don’t get me wrong, we are allowed to disagree with the choices people make! But we forget that being respectful and loving towards them is a part of God’s plan. And we’ve overlooked that. God, forgive us. My heart breaks for what we have done.

    • Acacia Smith

      I hope this doesn’t come off abrasive or insensitive. But whenever any one of us makes shipwreck of the faith, we individually have no one else to blame but ourselves.

      If we lose faith because of others,
      then we have lost faith because our faith was misplaced in others.

    • We didn’t fail them – it’s not my job. Its their own job to respect and work on their relationship with God. This guy is super bitter – this is some deep rooted issue here.

  10. “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear.” -Thomas Jefferson

    Whoever said that you shouldn’t question, doesn’t understand God.

    • AMEN!!! In fact, in the Bible it says that when we seek Him with our whole hearts, He will show Himself to us.

      What does it mean to seek Him? To LOOK for Him. That means to search… Have questions? AWESOME!! GO SEEK! Go look to FIND God. He will show Himself. God problems with stuff you dont understand about God? Ask Him to show the truth… And be willing to look for the answers rather than throwing in the towel without even attempting to find the answers… That just seems like looking for an excuse to give up.

    • @13th Evergreen that’s not the point. If you blindly follow the these rules, it is an issue. I doubt God wants a bunch people following his law without knowing why or asking questions

  11. As far as like Christianity goes, I think that the reason why I’ve questioned everything is the same reason why I fell farther into Christianity (“fell” as like in a good way). I love this band. I have since I was young and I don’t think that’ll ever change. Especially Aaron because I’ve looked up to him as a drummer my entire drumming career (going on ten years in August) but in this regard I would have to respectfully disagree. Still love their music though. Absolutely amazing stuff.

  12. Many of my friends walked away from God because of what everyone else was doing. I feel like Spencer focused so much on people that he forgot his relationship with God. I can relate in the way that most „Christians” I knew did the worst things. However, I never let it distract me nor did I blame them for my mistakes. Many go around focusing on people and trying to see them perfectly but that is flawed. The main focus should always be one’s relationship with God.

    • Acts 1:21-26
      21“Therefore, of these men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, 22beginning from the baptism of John to that day when He was taken up from us, one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.”

      23And they proposed two: Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. 24And they prayed and said, “You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen 25to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” 26And they cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

      „And they cast their lots”
      This was always my favorite part in the Bible, when asked „why aren’t you more like the Apostles” I tell people this verse and reply „I am, they walked with God in Human flesh and are still playing „Black Jack” to find the new Apostle” humans are stupid, that’s why we need Christ.

  13. Damn when I was 14-17, I listened to underoath all the time as a born again christian. Now I’m 27 and agnostic. I listened to one of their songs from back in the day and I felt such a strong jealousy for people who still believe in christianity because I used to find such comfort and wholeness in it. Now turns out they arent in it either. It almost feels like we grew together even though they have no idea I ever existed lol.

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